27.11.2016

Have had the HOTAS for nearly two weeks. This is coming from my second T.Flight X. I use it solely for Elite Dangerous.things I like:- superb level of accuracy and control on the stick, it feels like my input has a direct relationship with the movement of the ship whereas with the T.Flight it felt like the movement was lagging behind the input- the stick is very sensitive but not too much. Whereas the T.Flight had a noticeable physical deadzone the deadzone on the T.16000M is probably perfect - so tiny that it allows you to set an in-game deadzone to suit personal preference- the stick feels solid with good build quality (exception is a slightly sharp seam on the joins of the palm rest but I'm nitpicking).The throttle doesn't have quite the same feel but there's nothing wrong with it either- the throttle movement feels fine (seems to be a lot of differing experiences here) after I loosened the tension screw quite a bit. There is still a very small amount of sticking but not enough to bother me and it helps to apply downwards pressure- the mini-stick is super-sensitive - you only have to breath on it and it moves. This could be both a pro and a con. I found that if I pushed it to the left and then let go it would not centre perfectly and the ship would continue sideways at 1-2m/s. Fixed by setting a small deadzone in-game. Note that you should install the TWCS-specific drivers which provides a Windows control panel where you can enable/disable the physical centre deadzone- both the throttle and especially the stick grip to the surface nicely even though my desk has a somewhat slippery surface. The throttle could do with a little more weightthings I'm not so keen on:- the stick offers a fair amount of resistance. Shame there is no tension adjustment as with the T.Flight, but I guess this would add a point of weakness to the mechanism- the trigger is quite ‘clicky’ and noisy- the slider on the stick base feels cheap and there is not enough tension- the ambidextrous nature of the stick means that the layout of the top buttons has been compromised especially button 2 (middle) which involves putting your thumb in an awkward position and/or re-positioning your hand. For me this is a backwards step from the T.Flight whose buttons were positioned perfectly- the paddle on the throttle feels cheap and lightweight - preferred the one on the T.Flight- I don't see the point of the up/down switch for the middle finger - it feels odd to use especially pushing down. Perhaps this is intended for flight sims. I would have preferred another button- the buttons on the stick base are a bit spongy and despite the steps taken to improve button identification when wearing a VR HMD it is still difficult because they are arranged diagonally and the indents on the top row are insufficient. On the plus side they are quiet- the dial has far too much tension - this must be either a design flaw or a manufacturing defect- the top edge of the stick's POV hat is slightly sharp. A strange design decisionErgonomics - I was a little worried about this aspect as the T.Flight fitted my hands like a glove. For a man of 5ft 11 I guess I have slightly smaller than average-sized hands. For me the stick is a little on the large side - I can't rest my hand on the palm rest and have my thumb on the thumb rest at the same time. I also feel like my thumb joint is being stretched because the thumb rest is too far forward - I might try removing it. As for the throttle handle it's too low - TM should have designed it to be at the same height as the stick - or are we supposed to sit lopsided? I also would have liked the handle to have had more depth to give the wrist more support. Given that the controls on the back of the throttle force a certain hand position, the lower d-pad and the button on the side are in odd positions e.g. I have to re-position my hand and stretch my thumb to reach the button. Same for the paddle - it would have been better if they had simply tucked it under the handle.Summary - despite a few negative points and some concerns with the ergonomics I'm very pleased with this HOTAS. Oddly I now feel more connected with the ship and it has increased my enjoyment of playing ED. The improved accuracy alone is worth the upgrade over the T.Flight.

26.7.2019

This was bought to replace my T.Flight HOTAS X that had started to feel a little tired. I plumped for this one based on the throttle unit with its multiple hats, and because it was seemingly designed with Elite:Dangerous in mind.Initial impressions are good - there's plenty of controls within finger reach and the precision of the joystick is superb. I was (and still am) in two minds about the on-rails throttle. It's probably a matter of personal preference, but I dislike the need to move your arm more fully to adjust the throttle, when more-traditional pivoting types can be done more lazily. There's also no obvious centre notch for sims with a reverse throttle, so either you need to map a 'toggle reverse'button or just deal with it. However with some practice it is possible to be more accurate with this style, or at least in principle. In practice it's tricky to move the throttle in small, precise amounts thanks to the type of grease used inside. I've since opened it up and replaced it with some damping grease and it's made the whole thing feel a lot higher-end - better tactile feel and far more accurate. The other thing with the throttle is the whole thing felt a little too fat for my hands - if it was slimmed down slightly it would make reaching all the inputs easier.The throttle provides numerous inputs too, including three hats by the thumb, an analogue stick under a finger, a flappy paddle and about five digital buttons. That's plenty to play with, but the layout could be better. The analogue stick in particular feels entirely in the wrong place under the left forefinger, where I never feel like I have the tight control I'd like. I wish it was one of the ones accessible using the thumb, where it would be easier to move accurately and would make more sense when mapping controls onto it.The stick is very accurate as I've mentioned, but lacking in convenient inputs. Given the wealth of hats on the throttle I'm surprised there's only the one on the stick - I would like to see at least an analogue one in thumb's reach. There are twelve additional buttons on the base of the unit, but those are only suitable for functions where you have the time to take your hands off one of the units. Still, with a bit of thought I managed to map pretty much the entire E:D control scheme onto the HOTAS by using a couple of buttons as shift keys, effectively letting me put multiple functions onto each input.Overall it's a decent set - a bit lightweight in use and ergonomically the cheaper HOTAS X felt better in the hands, but you can't argue with the accuracy of the sensors, and the throttle especially gives lots of flexibility. It's a good purchase but make sure it suits you before buying it, as this sort of product can be highly subjective.

24.8.2020

This is an excellent HOTAS (Hands on Throttle and Stick!) but there are some caveats. Firstly for the price vs performance I would say this is spot on for both simulator enthusiasts and everyday gamers looking for an enhanced experience. Do note however, that at time of writing its currently retailing around £135 (I got this for £80ish a few years back).How is it for Flight Simulator 2020?= Good, almost everything can be done from the controllers - the throttle in particular has about 16 different buttons (including D-axies) in addition to the stick itself. I would highly recommend rebinding many of the keys so that you aren't having to constantly put both hands on the joystick for adjusting the flaps or trim for example.

12.8.2020

I’ve been using this for a few months now. I use it for Elite Dangerous and X-Plane 11 and it works a treat. It is a completely plastic construction and feels very light. Dispute this it sits nicely on a desk and doesn’t move around under heavy use.The resistance on the stick is just about right, not too strong but not too light.The trigger is VERY plastic and feels quite flimsy but I haven’t had any issues with it yet. I would prefer much more tactile feedback from it and a more firm click but for the price it’s ok. The other buttons on the stick are also a bit too soft and again could do with a much for tactile feedback to confirm presses.

17.11.2017

I'll cut straight to the chase, this is a fantastic Hotas for the money. Good quality, great feeling action on all components, precise, comfortable and simplistic.I purchased this stick as a replacement for my aging (but still functional) Thrustmaster T.Flight, and because the Saitek Rhino that was the original replacement had a mind of it's own. This is a very nice bit of kit, and for half the price of the Saitek it's very good value as well. The stick itself is very sensitive requiring the slightest of pressure to start registering the input. It uses the same 16bit resolution thingy that's in the top end warthog, and it shows. Also it centers perfectly requiring no dead zone setup.

3.2.2017

I bought one of these (the kids bought me) for Christmas as an upgrade to a T-FlightX Hotas solely to play Elite Dangerous.If you have played Elite Dangerous you will know how many commands you have and how many buttons that needs, this combo covers it all easily. I find I hardly use any of the buttons on the joystick base, but with all the combinations available via the throttle and the main stick buttons you have plenty.In terms of build and quality, it is still fairly light weight and plasticy, and I found both parts tended to move on the desktop if you are a little enthusiastic with the controls. Also the rubber feet on my joystick were not balanced and it rocked back and forward.

2.7.2019

First off I've previously had the X52 HOTAS. That has a superior joystick with two hats and several buttons in easy reach. Sadly that unit didn't have the best quality Throttle it should have been so I've had to upgrade and decided to go for the T-1600M.Getting used to the layout of the throttle unit didn't take long at all - the rudder like paddle switch is also very interesting and at one point I was using it as a gear changer before I obtained the G29 steering wheel. Because the throttle is on a slider with ample space in front of it, placement on a computer desk is absolutely fine for both - ideally depending on your desk you may want to keep them in reach as you lean back slightly,

30.6.2020

First things first: they are a pretty solid option for the price, and when I say they I mean the joystick plus the throttle. I haven't had issues with dead zones and, after some tweaking, I was enjoying old DOS games with the main stick (at last I have a good joystick for Gunship 2000 and LHX! just remember to play with the joystick types in dosbox).The bad: I haven't tried Elite Dangerous but it seems like it works out of the box for it. And probably it works out of the box for DCS. Period. That's it. As for the rest of the games, you must use either the TARGET software (which is kind of hell on earth) or inner game settings (as in Everspace) to be able to use it properly.

24.2.2018

Picked up T16000m hotas Upgraded from Logitech Extreme 3d pro found the movement on the T16000 to be way smoother and precise with way more travel which really helped, in fairness to the Logitech it has lasted me years, but with this new setup I find that I crash / loose control way less and landing is actually fun and controllable I mainly play DCS World, on windows 10, Feb 2018 and all works sweet . A nice feature of the throttle is small joystick that can be used with your index finger this is cool for radar target acquisition .. I have also tried elite dangerous and this joystick on throttle is so cool as it can be used to control up/down/left/right thrusters :)I was worried for lack of

28.3.2017

Review for theThrustmaster T.16000M FCS HotasExcellent throttle unit and good joystick. Setting up the software, which needs to be downloaded, was a bit of a fuss compared to most other sticks (like the Thrustmaster HOTAS X which is just plug'n'play). But there are plenty of adjustment options in the program, if you need to deal with any key conflicts, repeat speeds, etc that you may get in a particular game.On the throttle, your index finger is on another analogue joystick. This can be used like a 4-way switch like the other HAT switches, or as a proportional joystick - excellent for vertical/sideways thrust controls in Elite Dangerous!The main joystick has excellent sensitivity,

9.11.2017

I purchased this exclusively to use with Elite Dangerous so your mileage may vary if using it elsewhere. Firstly, the build quality feels high and belies the all plastic construction. For me this was a step up from the T-Flight HOTAS X, which has been outstanding value for money but simply doesn't have the buttons for ED, particularly in VR. This one certainly has plenty of buttons and a great little analogue mini-stick. The accuracy and feel of the joystick is a real step up from the T-flight. Giving a 4 rather than a 5 because:a) throttle is too stiff.b) the dozen buttons on the joystick base are pretty much a waste of space when using a HOTASc) the analogue mini-stick on the throttle has no dead zone,

22.10.2017

This stick and throttle is possibly my most favorite gaming purchase of 2017, and that is saying ALOT considering this year I have purchased a 1080Ti, PS4 Pro, and a slew of games!The quality of this setup at the £95 I paid for it is unmatched. I can't say enough good things about this setup. The feel and accuracy of the stick and throttle exceeds what I was expecting. Thrustmaster products have yet to let me down, so I will continue to buy them.What is with orange in gaming products this year? Seriously? That is the only not-so negative or con I can almost come up with about this product. The other only slight con about the stick is the single stage trigger,

7.8.2017

Pretty great all round, joystick accuracy is really great and all sliders are smooth. I've been using it with FSX before getting Elite Dangerous I'll only list a few negatives as the rest of the function has been perfect.- The rudder lever on the throttle requires some force to get to 100% on the left side. Not really an issue practically but it seems kinda strange.- The dial is too easy to move during normal operation. Using this as mixture I have accidently cut the engine by trying to operate the throttle/rudder.- Buttons on throttle are not convenient for HOTAS but they're okay for things like parking brakes/pushback etc.- (Very minor)

22.3.2017

After a week of use I am happy to report this is easily the best HOTAS I have come across especially at this price point. The actual stick has no deadzone. At all but more importantly corrects itself to center no matter how agressive you are in dogfights etc. In regard to the throttle I really do like this non-reutrn style and the granular control it brings. To describe the feedback it feels like its on a couple of rail sliders but they make no noise or generate any friction. The only minor issue I had was the POV analouge on the Throttle needed a large deadzone of around 10% setting. As landing in Elite Dangerous was niegh on impossible as the ship would not stop moving.

25.10.2017

I bought this throttle and joystick combo primarily to play elite dangerous. The throttle is silky smooth in use and the joystick has just enough resistance without ever becoming hard work. If there are any improvements I would like to see, a half-way decent on the throttle would be the main one as that would allow me to use the full range of the throttle for both forward and reverse.I have previously owned various hotas from the saitek/mad cats range including ones more expensive than this thrustmaster one. They have always left me disappointed; buttons stop working ... recalibration needed before every gaming session amongst other issues.

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