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27.7.2019

Update 20th January 2020:I upgraded to a 3900x. I've been using it for a couple of weeks and l'm loving it. A few things to note for those of you Ryzen 3rd Gen. users and prospective buyers:1. Voltage offset is your friend. In my case and with my specific MOBO (Asus C6H - x370) the different Ryzen CPUs I had (3600x, 3700x and now 3900x) behaved in the same way:- High voltage at idle up to 1.5V- (Thus) 'high' idle temps: around 37-45ºC- Around 1.2-1.3V at load, temps around 60ºC (ranging from 55 to 65ºC on a Corsair H150i Pro, quiet pump and all fans spinning around 800 RPMs).I don't care what "Robert" from AMD says and I surely don't trust him; I trust the numbers I get on my PC. So,if you want a quieter, more efficient, longer lasting (probably) Ryzen 3rd. Gen. CPU, I advise to go the 'voltage offset' route. Personally, I have my chip set to -1.0V so the 3900x never has more than 1.4V fed to it (I did the same on the 3700x; l actually had this CPU with a 1.250V undervolt and it did just as good as stock. I haven't tried to go so 'low' on voltage on the 3900x yet. I bet it'll work just fine, but until I try it I won't know for certain). I have run benchmarks (games, Cinebench) and I get slightly better results with the offset voltage. YMMV.2. If you want a totally silent PC experience (and have the appropriate components you'll need for it), I suggest you set a fan curve where fans won't spin up until the CPU reaches 62-63ºC AND you set the fans to have around 3 to 5 seconds response delay (you can actually set normal fan curves as long as you have a 5 seconds response delay. Just observe the CPU behavior and you'll understand the *rational for this).*This is all about trying to get around the 'low usage' and 'high voltage' Ryzen 3rd. Gen. behavior. Open an app and it'll boost up to its max., having the voltage fed to it to its max., too. This causes the temps to go much higher than at idle but just for literally a couple/few seconds. I've noticed the CPU won't care whether my fans are spinning at 2000 or 700 RPMs: it will still reach such temps. and settle there.Thus, the way to go is what l mentioned above. That way, your fans won't bother what the CPU is doing and will only spin up when the CPU truly needs it (beyond 62-63ºC). Funny enough that will hardly ever happen (almost never in my system) as, unless you don't have the appropriate airflow, your 3rd Gen. Ryzen CPU will hardly go beyond the aforementioned temps. Sure enough, again, your temps will vary according to the airflow in your case and ambient temps.3. I don't think l have noticed a significant improvement when going from the 3600x to the 3700x and then to the 3900x (as expected). All these CPUs are pretty snappy and a joy to use (once it's all properly configured). Unless you have a workload that requires more than 6 cores OR you are an enthusiast like me who gets thrilled just by thinking you have a 12 cores and 24 threads CPU, you're probably better off with the 3600 (even the non x).If you aren't planning to change the CPU until 3 years or beyond (and you like gaming) l'd probably buy the 3700x. Games like Battlefield V do use those 8 cores and even 12! I've seen "BV" using 54% of the 3900x (that's using those 12 cores fully and some of one thread) and I see up to 64% usage when 'loading' the game "COD MW 2019" or the next level. That is insane.If you aren't a gamer, an enthusiast and/or you won't utilize applications that take advantage of extra cores, then, really, go and get a 3400G. It's an excellent CPU (on daily, 'normal' usage you wouldn't notice a big difference between that one and the 3900x. Of course there is a difference, but not the one you may have in mind; not a 4 VS 12 cores difference.I got a 3400G for my wife and she can't be happier. Mind you, l would've gotten her the best available in the market had l thought a difference was to be found (for her PC usage). The 3400G will save you money (cheaper, no GPU needed, less powerful PSU required... even the electricity bill will be cheaper... ;-)Girls and boys, if you have questions, down in the comments. I hope this helps!Update 1st October 2019:I switched to a 3700x. The only difference l notice between the 3600x and the 3700x is when looking at MSI Afterburner OSD overlay while playing Battlefield V. Now, CPU usage is a lot less than before. If you're just a gamer you should be more than fine with the 3600x, l surely was. It just that seeing that high CPU usage while playing BV was bugging me (YMMV, as ever).The 3700x at stock (PBO off) is hitting advertised clocks in most cores. More importantly, idle voltage and temps are now settled after upgrading to BIOS 7501 (on an Asus C6H x370). I'm using Ryzen Balanced Windows Power Plan.So yeah, so far so good. Boy this's been a journey!I guess l'll now wait for an offer on the 3900x, not because l need it (not by any means!) but because l can and l am a PC enthusiast. Having 6 cores is good, 8 is great and 12 is awesome. 16 cores, l hear you say? Yeah, bring them on baby!Update 18th September 2019:- Upgraded to 5 STARS. At this price (I paid GBP 220, bought from Amazon), this CPU is amazing.- Added picture showing 2 cores reaching 4468MHz (HWinfo).- Waiting for BIOS update of 30th September.I continue being very happy with this CPU. It's snappy and fast. I have observed games like "Battlefield V" using it up to 90%. The game runs as smooth as you would want it (paired to a MSI RTX 2080 Gaming X Trio) and it's a joy to play.Now, my plan is to upgrade to a better Ryzen CPU next year and hopefully keep it for a few years (I'd buy an 8 cores minimum). If you buy a CPU having in mind to keep it for 3+ years, and you like playing games that utilize 8 or more cores if available (like "BV" does) then I would suggest you going for a 3700x instead. It'll be a better buy in that case scenario.Update (a week after purchase):I got into terms with this CPU and decided to keep it.After a week of daily usage l can tell this processor is faster and snappier than the one it’s replacing, a [email protected] only problem I found is the idle temperatures are ‘somehow’ hotter than the 1700x (even when OC). Basically, when idling, the 3600x temperature jumps from around 35°C all the way to 60-63°C. It is a strange, ‘restless’ behavior (see my system’s specs at the bottom).I have come into terms with this by readjusting the fans’ curve. In any case, the fans every now and then rev up to speeds they never reached before (past 2000Rpms in the case of the CPU fans when the latter occasionally reaches 73°C for a few seconds while loading a game). This happens rarely, but I’ve seeing it.In most cases, while gaming or stress testing, the CPU tends to sit at 60-63°C with an ambient temperature of around 20°C. For example, playing Battlefield V (3840x1200@120Hz), as you can see in the (lousy) uploaded pictures. I’d happily say this CPU is pretty cool under load.Another ‘weird’ thing I observed is the voltage. At idle, 1.4V; under load 1.3V. I think this is why the CPU is hot and jumpy when idling VS cooler and more stable under load. I researched online and found that the higher idle voltage is meant to ‘assist’ the 1-2 cores higher clock speed, whereas the lower voltage under load is because of the slower 6 clocks core speed.Speaking of clock speed, my processor has no problem reaching the advertised 4.4Ghz and even 4.450Ghz occasionally. While playing games it sits at 4.275-4.3Ghz, often speeding up to 4.375Ghz. I used “GPU Tweak II” to see the CPU’s behavior ‘while playing games’ and “HWmonitor” to monitor it in general.One thing to notice is the CPU cooler l’m using: an AIO 360mm Corsair H150i PRO with 3x Be Quiet Silent Wings 3 fans. Keep in mind your clock speed and you temps may vary when pairing the 3600x with a different, less efficient cooler.I’ll try to take and add new, more informative pictures when l have the time.All in all, if you’re coming from a 1700x/2700x or slower, I’d recommend the upgrade if you’re looking for a faster ‘Single Core (SC)’ speed and a snappier feeling when using the PC (e.g. opening programs, loading websites, etc.). (Bear in mind, around half a year ago I tried the 2700x on my rig but l sent it back due to not noticing any improvement compared to my 1700x.)I keep the 4 stars rating due to the 'weird idle behavior'. Otherwise this CPU would completely deserve 5 stars. Price to performance it is a 5 stars CPU.My rig:- 3600x- C6H (x370)- RTX 2080 Strix- Corsair H150i PRO (with 3x Be Quiet Silent Wings 3)- NVME Samsung 960 PRO- 3200Mhz – 16GB RAM – Corsair Dominator Platinum- EVGA T2 - 850w- Be Quiet Dark Base 900 Pro……………………………….(*As a side note and in order to help prospective buyers decide between this CPU and the 3700x.)If your usage is like mine (Word, 20+ tabs/two windows internet browsing, gaming AAA games, listening to music and watching movies) then this CPU will surely serve you very well. I would certainly also explore Intel options (specifically the 9700K if on offer).I’ve had an 8 cores CPU (the aforementioned 1700x) and trust me, if you want a fast, snappy feeling on your PC, you want high SC performance. Leave all those 8 cores for ‘video editors’ and other users of applications that utilize a high core/thread count.‘Future proofing,’ I hear you say? I laugh at that concept. My beloved 1700x bought in the best region of the world (Cambridge, Massachusetts) in May 2017 (yeah, I was a Zen early adopter) is already outdated by a 6 cores CPU, 2 years later. There is no ‘future proofing’ in technology. Now, if you can’t afford an upgrade every 2 years or you just don’t bother, then surely, aim at the best you can buy today. I would then pay the extra 80 GBP and get the 3700x because those extra 2 cores may come handy in the coming 4-5 years. If your PC usage is like mine and you’re like me in that you’re already thinking of the new Ryzen CPU (Zen 5?) then get this one and save those 80 GBP for the next Ryzen generation.‘Some games use 8 cores,’ you say. Well, check games benchmarks and tell me what the difference is: 5fps? 8fps in the best case scenario? Will you notice that? I surely won’t.……………………………….(Initial review.)I have mixed feelings about the 3600x.On one hand it 'feels' snappier and faster than my old and trusty 1700x (even when OC to 3.9Ghz), on the other hand the 3600x runs hotter when idling.My PC was silent until upgrading to the 3600x. I can now hear the 3x Be Quiet Silent Wings 3 fans revving up (installed on a 360mm AIO Corsair 150i PRO) at idle. Ambient temperature: 19°C.The CPU reaches the advertised speed and l have seen it surpassing it, too (see pictures attached). When all cores are in use it seats at 4.09 while aleatory changing the speed of 1 core to 4.124Mhz (when benchmarking Cinebench r15 MC).So far it gets 4 stars because it runs significantly hotter than the 1700x (3.9Ghz OC) at idle. When gaming (BV) it sits at around 63-65°C (see attached pictures) (Front door of my case opened, 3x 140mm Be Quiet Silent Wings 3 located at the case front running at full speed).Conclusion, after a few hours of testing (To be updated):- It feels snappier/faster than a 1700x (OC to 3.9Ghz) when opening programs and ‘normal usage’. This time it’s not only about ‘numbers’ (benchmarks) but you can ‘feel’ the difference.- It runs hotter than a 1700x (even when OC to 3.9Ghz).- Metro Exodus Benchmark: l get the very same results with the 3600x and the 1700x on this benchmark. I guess l’m GPU limited/bottlenecked (but just to say).One star off because of the temps at idle. l'll conduct further testing and come back to update this review in a week.
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16.4.2021

Ever since the K5-166 landed in my pc all those years ago, I've loved the underdog. Even had a Cyrix at one point. The Phenom II gave me some good times. The A8, for all its flaws, did a splendid job with Linux Mint, Windows 8.1 (2018 unpatched and offline) and Debian KDE, apart from a long night or five tweaking screen tearing issues. Let's throw some power at it, I said. Let's wait months for the 3600 to come back into stock at a decent enough price. Let's assume that after 2 freaking years, the idle voltage and stock cooler malarkies, aided partially and unhelpfully by "AMD Robert", things have settled down...Nope. R5 3600, stock cooler, AsRock B450 Pro 4, and 2x8GB DDR4 3200 Crucial Ballistix.Added a WD550 NVMe drive... So far, I don't think anything I added was ever on a compatibility list for the board initially. The "Ready for 3xxx" label clearly added later on. Of course the drive didn't boot so an SSD made do alongside. Things all set up again - Mint 20.0 and Windows 8.1 (the old offline version purely for old games and apps that just don't work right anywhere else) - and benchmarks through Performance Test began... And ended as I watched the reported CPU temperature fly into the 80s and reach 90c within a couple of minutes. I checked everything was attached, no problems there....Days later, armed with thermal paste, along with voltage offset, memory timing and fan curve knowledge, along with the eco mode (60w PPT) on the board, I got something workable. I wasn't hitting specs on all cores with the stock cooler and I didn't expect anything different but that temperature was INSANE to start with. I ended up with -50mV offset, the right memory timings, eco mode enabled and that was it. I extended the tests and watched the temperature reach the high 70s after half an hour, so that stock cooler needs to GO. That loses a star in my opinion, it's utterly useless and after 2 years, the fact a substandard cooler is still supplied says a lot really... Two decades and this one has to be the most awkward CPU I have dealt with. The board got its BIOS updates which changed nothing. This CPU would be better off cooler-free and cheaper.So, that was the crusty part of the whole shebang... And I haven't even got to pushing it in games yet. However, the performance test results were a little surprising. I'd let one medium pass go before freaking out at the temps before I changed the offsets, timings and power limiter. The results I got after applying all the limits and changes was rather surprising. Single thread went up about 9%, multithread up about 3%. Ran the tests several times, pretty much the same results... How on earth did limiting and lowering settings make it run BETTER??? Confusing as it seems to me, it's running much better now.Shame about that horrible stock cooler, which is probably the reason for the bizarre benchmarks. But the PPT never goes over 60w, the temps mid to late 70s at worst under full loads and now I'm having fun with OC'ing the video card... Damn you, AMD, for making me geek again.
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22.2.2021

I got this processor to replace my i5-9400F because I wanted to handle multitasking, resource-heavy scenarios and video production work and so far it's just absolutely demolished any task I've thrown at it, at base clock speed without so much as turning on AMD's automatic overclocking.I've played games and recorded them at Twitch-compatible bitrates (x264 encoding up to 8,000kbps CBR) with a camera and leap motion doing face and hand tracking at the same time and it laughs at the workload. I've played games recording 1080p and 1440p video at CRF14 (variable bit rate ranging from 30 thousand to over 50 thousand kbps) on x264 fast, or 1080/30fps console footage at the same CRF on x264 slow (i.e.CPU not running a game) and it still manages without any dropped frames.When using davinci resolve, using a 'smart' (automated) render cache is all I need for an almost entirely lag-free preview, no proxies / optimised media necessary. On the i5, rendering a 1080p video would take more time than the length of the video. The 3900 - assuming I largely leave the computer alone for the length of the render or just use it for light browsing - manages to render 1440p video at the 'best' preset (will vary depending on your source media) in faster than real time.For productivity and general gaming, it's an amazing processor. The only scenarios I've managed to scratch maxing it out - again, at base clock - are running CPU-heavy games, with face and hand tracking and two instances of CPU encoding at presets slower than necessary - unrealistic, intentional stress-test scenarios exclusively made to test its limits. At €250 cheaper than the 3950X, it's honestly a great price per performance ratio for multitaskers.The only other situation I find worth noting are a small handful of older games which were built intended to run on later hardware with much higher clock speeds that never came; like Guild Wars 2 and Planetside 2. Crysis would be another famous example of a game being built this way, where AMD's general aim of lower single core clock speed and higher core count starts to cause some issues, but these games will *always* cause issues for people without a full engine re-write. In these instances, fast RAM gives a significant upgrade in frame count.My cooler setup is 2 fans in, 2 fans out, one fan either side of a coolermaster hyper 212, Arctic MX-4 thermal paste. Idle, the processor sits around 40C. During games, it can kick up to high fifties, sixties. Under high, multitasking workloads with simultaneious gaming and intense encoding in OBS, or rendering in Resolve, it can move into the high seventies. Stress-test scenarios bring it up to 82C peaks.
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16.8.2019

So, starting this review off I've been using my Ryzen 5 3600 for a few weeks on my Asus ROG STRIX x470-f motherboard with Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200mhz DDR4(2X8GB) I've had no issues at all with installation or even getting up and running - besides for the hour of fresh OS install as recommended when changing hardware.First off the installation to the board itself couldn't be easier, drivers and software is all in one handy zipped file on the AMD Support page, one click and a restart and that's it. I like experimenting a little with Ryzen Master and squeezing a little more performance out of it - conveniently on the new version of RM, there's actually a 'Precision Boost' & 'Auto Overclocking'presets which gives worry free improvements as they're all customised by AMD themselves.So with the overclocking max set to 4.26Ghz, RAM boosted to 3,266Mhz and my 980Ti on stock, the gaming experience is definitely worth the £188 I paid compared to my old 1700x (£170).Already off the bat, the single thread speeds were very noticeable providing even better performance in my games but without sacrificing much of the Multithreading speed of the 1700x. I play all of my games on 1080p 60fps, Very High with some 2xMSAA(sometimes 4x if the game is well optimised) and it handles it all really well, give or take a few frames dropped here and there but nothing to frown about considering you're paying less than £200!Temperatures of my 3600 at 4.25Ghz paired with my Hyper Evo 212(With AM4 adapter) idles around 34-40 degrees and is around 65-70 under full load but mostly towards the 60 degrees side and less than 70 Watts of power consumption.I'm planning to upgrade to an RTX soon though because my 980Ti is almost 5 years old so it is starting to feel a little slow and could possibly be holding the Ryzen back a little. Anyway, I digress, for £180-190 this is the closest you're going to get in terms of performance to an Intel i5 chip at a competitive price point!AMD have hit the jackpot with these chips and I can't see why anyone would turn their nose up at the price:performance ratio you can get with a Ryzen!EDIT: I was checking a few recent reviews on here and people complaining about the AMD Rewards as a scam? NOT TRUE AT ALL!I was able to redeem my 3 months of Game Pass back in July with no issues after installing the product verification tool from the site. Apparently a lot of people don't understand how to use computers on here and blame the hardware ? ignore all of the one star reviews.
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4.3.2021

The latest Ryzen 3000 processors (except APU models) differ from previous Ryzen generations in that they are no longer based on a single, large chip but use a multi-chip approach with smaller chips instead. Depending on the exact model there can be one (6 and 8-core models) or two (12 and 16-core models) actual CPU-Dies (CCD) on the package. Each processor also uses an I/O-Die (IOD), which contains things like the memory controller, PCIe controller, connections to the motherboard chipset and other functions. Because of this design change and the switch to a smaller 7nm manufacturing process, the heat distribution of the overall processor is much different from older 14nm and 12nm based single-chip Ryzen processors with a similar power draw.Depending on the exact CPU model,its specified TDP value and possibly extended power limits (precision boost overdrive), a single CPU-die can create a heatload of up to 130W easily, whereas the I/O-die usually creates a heatload of about 10W. Due to the small size of the CPU-die, the heat density (W/mm²) of this chip is very high. For example, a 120W heatload at a chip-size of 74mm² results in a heat-density of 1.62W/mm², whereas the same heatload on an older Ryzen processor with a chip-size of 212mm² gives a heat-density of just 0.57W/mm².This large difference in heat-density is the reason why newer Ryzen 3000 processors become much warmer at similar heatloads than their predecessors.Furthermore, Ryzen 3000 CPUs are using the rated temperature headroom (up to 95°C) quite aggressively in order to reach higher boost clocks. As a result, it is absolutely no problem and not alarming if the processor runs into this temperature limit. The clock speed and supply voltage will be adjusted automatically by the processor itself in order to remain within AMD’s specifications and to prevent overheating.Due to the higher heat density, higher thermal limits and more aggressive boost clock usage, it is perfectly normal that Ryzen 3000 CPUs are reaching higher temperatures than previous generation Ryzen CPUs with the same TDP rating. Higher CPU temperatures are normal for Ryzen 3000 processors and not a sign of that there is anything wrong with the CPU cooler.
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7.5.2020

So I bought the 3600 as a return to AMD after almost a decade with Intel. I'm not disappointed.I've upgraded from an Intel 4790k and whilst still a solid chip its time was up. My system was, I started to notice, struggle in a few little areas. Started being less 'smooth'. With the current aggressive pricing on the 3600 I decided to invest and then when the 4000 series comes out, I'll pick up a cheaper 3900x or something.To go with my 3600 I bought an MSI B450 Tomahawk Max, 16gb crucial Ballistix ram @ 3600 MHz and a new m.2 ssd. I reused my old case and seasonic psu. Unfortunately my Noctua U12s didnt have the correct bracket but more on that in a bit.So, using the stock cooler I set about installing and building it all.It all went very easy and the stock cooler is the easiest I have ever installed. Quick trip into the bios to update it and set the ram to 3600 and I was soon installing windows.Two immediate observations, its very fast, and the stock cooler is not great. It turns out AMD have removed the copper plate and the stock cooler really should only be a stop gap. Quick check online and Noctua will send you a free AM4 bracket for the U12s so that was ordered.Once back up and running everything is smoother. And I attribute that to the extra cores as the system can handle so much more. Even if your game isnt optimized for multi-core you will see a benefit as the system isnt dragging that one core down.Temps wise, as mentioned the stock cooler is not good. After a gaming session HWMonitor reported it had hit peaks around 95c. Whilst it can handle that the noise was terrible and the chip likely started throttling. It idled around 50 too.Performance is all relative but paired with my 1080 on a GSYNC 144hz monitor everything is much much smoother.After receiving the bracket and then installing the Noctua U12s temps dropped dramatically. Idle around 35 and even though my office is in the attic I haven't seen it go about 79. I'm very happy with that against a higher ambient air temp.Where this chip really flies is productivity. To be honest for the price its a steal. and clearly at the time of writing the best bang for buck.
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29.7.2020

I think this is what AMD intended Ryzen to be from the off, I have had the 1700X and the 2600 from previous gen. Both excellent in their own right and I learnt alot about Ryzen and it's likes and dislikes, So coming from the Ryzen 5 2600 I wasn't expecting miracles.I got them though, let me explain, on paper the Ryzen 5 3600 has a slightly higher all core boost and double the cache, thats it oh and smaller fab at 7nm. What ever trickey they have going on is working I get a solid 15-20% FPS boost in all current tiltes and a solid 1500-2000 point gain in Firestrike, not earth shattering I admit but when you factor in I sold my 2600 for £100 this 3600 cost me £54 at the time I bought it.Along side that it seems to me at least way more tunable the any previous gen of Ryzen, old Ryzen was just a bugger to tune with RAM and overclocking got them hot if you wanted any meaningful speed say 4.2Ghz compared to 4.0Ghz which is what I settled on with the 2600 as 4.2 just got too hot even with an AIO. Now these Ryzen 3's can run hot if you brute force the OC but instead of that and using the Precission Boost Overdrive and a bit of reading I have my 3600 boosting to 4.4Ghz on sinlge threaded workloads and averaging 4.3 on everything else all at less heat that if I dialed in 4.3 and static voltage. Now the CPU and it's own limits are controlling the clock speed, much as it would if you just dropped it in stock and let it just run, but with a bit of reading and some time this processor will run so much better, much like GPU's of today the cooler you keep them the faster they go within their limits.So to summerise I'll leave my specs hereMSI X470 Gaming ProRyzen 5 3600 @ 4.4Ghz PBO max boostCrucial Micron E die 3600 DDR 4 @ 3800 16-20-16-16-38And an RTX 2060 under an H55 AIO that now boost's to 2Ghz now that it is no longer thermally limited.Folks overclocking for me at least just became fun again, more like tuning a muscle car than just slapping on some NOS and cooling and seeing how fast she'll go.
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2.9.2020

I have built a number of PC's over the years but not for the last three and since then the technology has marched on considerably.This time I was building a PC for my wife who uses Photoshop and needed a reasonably powerful PC to use the program fully. As such I got back into the weeds and started the upgrade to my personal memory module.And I found that Ryzen CPU's from AMD are currently the overall choice for performance vs cost if most of the online reviews, Youtube videos and magazines are anything to go by. Given that most of these views are held by people with far better technical knowledge than I, this seemed to be the way forward.So, which CPU?As ever with unlimited funds one would simply pick the fastest at the highest cost.However, back in the real world I figured two hundred quid or less was my target cost and this Ryzen chip fitted the bill perfectly. Without a doubt it hits the sweet spot and given it's overall popularity I suspect most people making middle of the range PC's feel the same as me.This comes boxed with the cooler and fan which, is not overly large. I appreciate that power users and PC hobbyists may well want something fancier with flashing LED's but what comes in the box works well, maintaining temperatures within spec and is also very quiet. Right now given that the PC I built is not for show I don't see any need to change the cooling arrangement at all.Paired with a decent motherboard this Ryzen CPU blows my old computer into the weeds. My wife is not a gamer but she does use Photoshop a lot as photography is her hobby and it can demand a bit from your PC when doing some tasks. Certainly her old computer struggled and often took quite a while to render some of the modified photographs.Not with this sucker. Now every task is quick and seamless with no waiting around. It makes using heavy duty programs a pleasure not a pain and thus has ticked the main requirement for my wife.Overall, I'm with the majority. AMD have nailed it with the Ryzen CPU's.
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6.12.2019

Who would have thought that the underdogs would bring out such an amazing new architecture. I use this as my main computer build. I use it for gaming, game modding, encoding media files, extracting large archive files and wow! The performance is unbelievable. I would highly recommend this over the competition in today's market. I nearly went for the 3900X but decided that the 3700X would suffice as I mainly game. And with a TDP of only 65W rating, that brings the electric bill down at the same time as getting more performance compared to my old build (a first generation i7 975). If you can afford it, couple this CPU with 3600mhz RAM with CL16 timings. It is considered the sweet spot.3200mhz will also be fine if you cannot afford the faster RAM. I run mine with G Skill Trident Z (non rgb) kit and it runs flawlessly. The wraith cooler included comes with RGB which I am not a fan of (no pun intended). However, it's performance for a default cooler is extremely great; especially compared to their competitors default coolers. I would highly recommend customising the fan curves or cooling options using software or bios settings. I say this because I found when this CPU reached 50 deg C, my fans (inc. case fans) all increased rapidly and then immediately settled back down again. Changing the Q Fan curve options in my Asus bios helped tweak this and stopped the fans ramping up and therefore helped create a more silent environment. Your chosen motherboard may have a similar feature, otherwise try speedfan software. Gaming performance is excellent. Though you really notice how good this processor is when you do a lot of multiple tasks or with applications where by they can take serious advantage of the extra cores offered compared to AMD's competitor. Examples being but not limited to: compression utilities such as 7zip, blender, cad software, transferring a lot of files around etc. I would highly recommend this to anyone looking to upgrade to a modern PC.
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10.12.2020

I bought this CPU for a budget 1080p gaming pc for my nephew. Originally I planned to use the 3300x in the build but they have been unavailable for months. Anyway I built the pc around this with 16gb (2x8gb) 3200mhz corsair vengeance lpx ram, an Asrock B550m Pro 4 mobo, RX 580 8gb Msi Armour gpu, 1TB WD nvme ssd, 2TB Toshiba 7200rpm HDD, 500w Be quiet system 9 psu, GameMax Phantom Gaming Case with tempered glass side panel, all new for £600.I'm really happy with the performance of this rig, as is my nephew. Getting a 4 core 8 threaded cpu for this money is superb (I paid £95), and it is an excellent performer. Even RDR2 chugs along nicely at 60fps with medium to high settings.My I7 7700k cost over £300 3 years ago and the performance isn't far behind it.There are a couple of things to note when building a PC with this chip. It has no onboard gpu so you will need a discreet graphics card otherwise you will not get a display. Secondly I initially had issues getting the new build to post. I turned the power on and the fans powered up but that was it. Luckily have built a few pc's and thought this was a RAM issue. So I pulled out the sticks from slots 1and 3 and tried 2 and 4. Still no luck. I then put a single stick of ram in slot 2 and it posted. I then installed windows, shut the pc down and installed both sticks in their dual config and hey presto all worked fine. I did have a further problem as the I could not get the ram to work at it's designated 3200mhz, I had to settle for 3000mhz, though I'm sure a bios update would solve this.An included cpu cooler is also nice to see, and it works just fine, though if you like to overclock a beefier solution is recommended. It's certainly a lot better than the old intel stock coolers. Anyway a great value cpu, well done AMD.
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28.3.2020

It's amazing how far computer processors have gone recently, for roughly £150 we have everything most users will ever need. My 3900X died for no apparent reason only after 6 months, and while it's being sent to AMD, I got this as a placeholder to keep my system running. All I can say is- wow! I don't feel much of a difference at all, I'm a heavy Adobe Lightroom/Photoshop user, and while there's a difference when exporting big galleries (like 1000 files in one go), the difference isn't that massive to be fair. When doing stuff in Develop module, I almost can't notice any slowdown, it impressed me as 3900x was over £500 when it was launched, and everyone ran short of the stock.It could be due to very high-end other parts in the system (top of the range 3600mh CL16 memory, PCIe4 M.2 drive, top of the range X570 motherboard), which could probably push the CPU to its limits, I've benchmarked it with Passmark, and I've got 22700 points while the average for this CPU is 17800, which is almost 30% faster. Nevertheless, I'm sure no-one will be disappointed with its performance.I highly recommend this CPU, save your money on other parts and don't bother about 3700 or 3800. This CPU is all you need unless it's a heavy multi-core capable stuff, like massive Adobe Premier/Lightroom export, then yeah, go for 3900x or 3950x, but don't waste your money on those middle steps, they're just useless IMHO.Ah, I forgot about gaming- I only play Battlefield 5, and I honestly, haven't noticed any difference at all, the same fps I had with my 3900x. With BF V it's still a GPU that bottlenecks the system, this CPU is enough unless you're pairing it with 2080 Ti on 1080p resolution, which is probably a very unlikely scenario.
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13.8.2019

Edit: Altered review based on only being able to write one review for all AMD CPU'sAs by the fact ive now bought 3 Zen2 CPU's its pretty obvious i like them.The Bad.The boosting obviously and im going to have a dig at online reviews where single thread performance is still a big thing for them (but not for us real world users) So yeh it boosts to x mhz, but for how long, how many cores, whats the spread? I dont know and i dont have time to work it out. Go away single core, we are not interested.Then the voltage and temps, even after several bios revisions the cpu calls quite a lot of volts running the stock algorithm which i just dont see the need for.Especially on idle!Ultimately because of the above ive fixed both my 3700 and 3900x at 4.25ghz and 1.29 and 1.25v respectively. I get the same low core performance and better all core. And lower temps to boot.The 3600 ive left at stock, as mine wont 'overclock' to any benefit where the other two do. Note, imo an 'overclock' is worth trying as most online reviews are testing single core on PBO, where in the 3900x there are 10 cores between 1 and 12..... testing single or all is a bit daft and doesnt make sense.The good, these CPU's are incredible performers for the money. We are getting near premium performance across the board from the super cheap 3600. The 3700x is really all youd ever need for maintstream price. And the 3900x, 12 cores for 470quid? thats just mad. And you get PCIE4 with them so im now running tripple nvme in my boxes.I heard there another company making CPU's but i forget there name but apparently they are trying hard to catch up. Oneday we may have an alternative to compare to this fantastic range of cpu's. Roll on Zen3
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26.10.2019

Finally got my hands on 3900X and it's great! Initially ordered on July 11, but when my order missed delivery date 11 days later, I got Ryzen 3 3200G to make sure the rest of my new build is working. BTW, 3200G is a beast of a CPU for the price! It's CPU performance is solid and iGPU performance is very impressive. It's hard to tell the difference between 3200G and 3900X in day to day use actually. Even in gaming, there's not a big difference, (though I do play at Quad-HD and 4K on RTX 2070, so games are mostly GPU bound).Anyway, I ended up cancelling my 3900X in September and re-ordered again from Amazon US when they became available a week ago. It's probably for the best,because I get 4.2GHz all core boost and single core boost of 4.65GHz (on stock BIOS settings), now that AMD has learned from all of the complaints about boost clocks and released the ABBA AGESA, and perhaps started binning 3900Xs a little better to save face.Multi-core performance is very impressive, I've tried compiling Rust projects and compressing large number of files with 7-zip. Now here, it's a night and day difference compared to my macbook pro and Ryzen 3200G.The CPU temp goes to 75C after a few minutes at full load (Blender Classroom rendering), with NH-D15S as a cooler. I used Noctua's thermal paste that came with the cooler, pressed the heatsink against the CPU, removed to check thermal paste covered the whole heat spreader, then screwed the heatsink on.If that helps, I'm using Aorus Elite x570 board, Micron's Ballistix DDR4 3200 RAM CL16 (4 sticks) and Samsung 970 EVO NVMe M.2 SSD.So there you go, I guess, this is 2 reviews in one. Looks like you can't go wrong with AMD's new CPUs. Buy with confidence!
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27.9.2019

I bought this CPU as to upgrade from my i7 4790k, not necessarily because I was expecting a huge performance increase but my 4th gen Intel chip was starting to show it's age with compatibility issues. So I moved to a new b450 motherboard and the 3700X CPU. This Chip runs a bit hotter than I'd expect it to (Although I am looking to upgrade to an AIO in the future to help with temps), it is a very capable chip, the temperatures whilst gaming aren't too bad and it keeps up with the high end Intel chips in gaming, but the deciding factor for me was the price was £40-60 cheaper than the equivalent Intel CPU and it basically does everything other than Gaming better than Intel.AMD have really stepped up with this CPU and I don't really have much negatives to say, there are a few, such as the turbo clock issues with AMD chips and motherboards (research it before buying). This should be fixed by the time anyone is reading this review but make sure you compare at what matters most to you, and I enjoy my gaming but I enjoy streaming and recording also, which helped make my choice clear that I'd go for an AMD CPU. With my previous Intel CPU streaming and gaming wasn't really possible as I would get stuttering from little bits of lag and it was noticeable enough to not be able to stream, with this new AMD CPU you still suffer from general FPS decrease (As does Intel) but it is a lot less worse, and I am not getting stuttering in any games in-fact. So it gets a huge thumbs up from me for this. I would recommend this CPU to others, I would say it easily hits a 8-9/10, the only downsides are that it's not as powerful as a 9700k or 9900k, and the temps can be a bit higher than you'd expect on Idle.
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27.1.2020

I've only ever really owned one Intel CPU, a 286 I don't remember, and a DX2-66, ever since then I've gone with AMD. I'm not saying they've always been the best or most efficient, but if you wanted performance for a price that didn't sting, AMD was the way to go.With this generation of chips it really seems like AMD have caught up with Intel in almost every way, and they are still significantly lower in price. Maybe I'm biased, but reviews seem to agree that these processors pound for pound match or beat their Intel cousins. I upgraded from a AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition, so let's be honest, any of the current generation would seem like voodoo in terms of performance increase,but this just feels so fast. Seems to compare favourably with the 3800X and a good bit cheaper. If the 7-2700X (which can be had quite cheaply) and 5-3600X just don't seem enough, and the price tag on the 9-3900X is just too hard to look at, the 7-3700X is probably the one for you.The fan... It's not so quiet, it does light up if powered, and I'm running with the sides of the case open right now so I'm not sure how effective it is at cooling, some of the reviews suggest swapping it out if you're over locking and I'd probably agree, but as a stock cooler it seems to do the job well enough. One more thing, clipping the heat sink + fan to the processor/board has always been my least favourite part of a build, but this seemed to take way longer to fit than on any of the others I've built recently, maybe it was a defect, but if not, be patient and it does clip on in the end.Overall, very pleased with this.
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